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Qwen3.8 Max
by Qwen
Qwen3.8 Max is the flagship model in Alibaba's Qwen3.8 series, the general-availability successor to the Qwen3.8 Max Preview.
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About Qwen3.8 Max
Qwen3.8 Max is the flagship model in Alibaba's Qwen3.8 series, the general-availability successor to the Qwen3.8 Max Preview.
Notes
Qwen3.8 Max is listed in the EDNA Models directory from the OpenRouter catalogue.
Key facts
What we have checked
- Time to first token (ms)
- 3,180
- Output speed (tokens a second)
- 38.2
- Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index
- 53.4
- Artificial Analysis Coding Index
- 68.9
- Artificial Analysis Agentic Index
- 49.9
- LMArena text rating (Elo)
- 1,484
- LMArena web development rating (Elo)
- 1,677
- LMArena vision rating (Elo)
- 1,313
- Design Arena rating (Elo)
- 1,333
- Gpqa diamond
- 92.7% (for 2 Aug 2026)
- Frontiermath tiers 1 3 v2 private
- 74.7% (for 2 Aug 2026)
- Simpleqa verified
- 45.8% (for 2 Aug 2026)
Each value shows when we last confirmed it and where it came from. Values we have not confirmed are left out, never guessed.
API access
How to call it
Call via OpenRouter with model id `qwen/qwen3.8-max`.
- openrouter ·
qwen/qwen3.8-max· Docs
OpenRouter id: qwen/qwen3.8-max
Scores
How Qwen3.8 Max scores
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| Score | Value | Source | Checked |
|---|---|---|---|
| Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index | 53.4indexAs of 7 Nov 2026 | Artificial Analysis via OpenRouter | |
| Artificial Analysis Coding Index | 68.9indexAs of 7 Nov 2026 | Artificial Analysis via OpenRouter | |
| Artificial Analysis Agentic Index | 49.9indexAs of 7 Nov 2026 | Artificial Analysis via OpenRouter | |
| LMArena text rating (Elo) | 1,484EloAs of 7 Nov 2026 | LMArena (CC-BY-4.0), published 2026-11-06 | |
| LMArena web development rating (Elo) | 1,677EloAs of 7 Nov 2026 | LMArena (CC-BY-4.0), published 2026-11-06 | |
| LMArena vision rating (Elo) | 1,313EloAs of 7 Nov 2026 | LMArena (CC-BY-4.0), published 2026-11-06 | |
| Design Arena rating (Elo) | 1,333EloAs of 7 Nov 2026 | Design Arena via OpenRouter | |
| Apex agents (best-across-versions) | 63.3percentAs of 2 Aug 2026 | Epoch AI (CC BY 4.0) | |
| Chess puzzles (best-across-versions) | 46percentAs of 2 Aug 2026 | Epoch AI (CC BY 4.0) | |
| Dtbench (best-across-versions) | 92percentAs of 2 Aug 2026 | Epoch AI (CC BY 4.0) | |
| Frontiermath tier 4 v2 private (best-across-versions) | 46.3percentAs of 2 Aug 2026 | Epoch AI (CC BY 4.0) | |
| Frontiermath tiers 1 3 v2 private (best-across-versions) | 74.7percentAs of 2 Aug 2026 | Epoch AI (CC BY 4.0) |
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| Score | Value | Source | Checked |
|---|---|---|---|
| Frontierswe (best-across-versions) | 15.8percentAs of 2 Aug 2026 | Epoch AI (CC BY 4.0) | |
| Gpqa diamond (best-across-versions) | 92.7percentAs of 2 Aug 2026 | Epoch AI (CC BY 4.0) | |
| Lmca (best-across-versions) | 46.2percentAs of 2 Aug 2026 | Epoch AI (CC BY 4.0) | |
| Mystery game puzzles (best-across-versions) | 38percentAs of 2 Aug 2026 | Epoch AI (CC BY 4.0) | |
| Otis mock aime 2024 2025 (best-across-versions)Saturated | 99.4percentAs of 2 Aug 2026 | Epoch AI (CC BY 4.0) | |
| Proofbench (best-across-versions) | 58percentAs of 2 Aug 2026 | Epoch AI (CC BY 4.0) | |
| Simpleqa verified (best-across-versions) | 45.8percentAs of 2 Aug 2026 | Epoch AI (CC BY 4.0) |
- Saturated
- Top models score close to the maximum, so this test no longer separates them.
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Sources
Where this comes from
- Artificial Analysis via OpenRouterThird party
- LMArena (CC-BY-4.0), published 2026-11-06Third party
- Design Arena via OpenRouterThird party
- Artificial AnalysisThird party
- Epoch AI (CC BY 4.0)Third party
- Epoch AI (CC BY 4.0)Third party
- Epoch AI (CC BY 4.0)Third party
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Changelog
What changed
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MODEL FIELD GUIDE / SOURCE EVIDENCE
What you can do with Qwen3.8 Max.
No longer listed by its catalogue; the facts shown are as last listed. Sources checked 2026-11-07. Hosting routes and app features can differ.
qwen/qwen3.8-max- Tool calling
- Not established
- Structured output
- Not established
- Reasoning controls
- Not established
- Availability
- unknown
- Price basis
- token
- Licence verification
- Check the developer licence; the model name is insufficient
- Context length
- Not established
- Knowledge cutoff
- Not established
- Developer release date
- Not established
- First seen in the catalogue
- Not established
- Listed retirement date
- Not established
- Last listed by its catalogue
- 4 Sept 2026
Not in the OpenRouter catalogue when checked; last listed 2026-09-04. Retirement is not confirmed by a source.
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